Comments for Seth Goldstein http://blog.sethgoldstein.com Transparent Bundles- from Wall Street to the Web Thu, 24 Jul 2008 18:43:03 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.2 Comment on Open + Closed by martin http://blog.sethgoldstein.com/2007/11/05/open-closed/#comment-319 martin Wed, 07 Nov 2007 20:33:17 +0000 http://blog.sethgoldstein.com/2007/11/05/open-closed/#comment-319 ok, so there have to be borders to get the feeling of openness (opening up, crossing a border). that's right, and quite interesting to think on further. but the dialectics of openness/closedness seem to be much more sophisticated than they look in your lists. how is the feeling/experience of "openness" created? in which different ways? can a site (like Facebook) feel open for one (like a college student) at the same time feel closed to the other (like myself)? etc. ok, so there have to be borders to get the feeling of openness (opening up, crossing a border). that’s right, and quite interesting to think on further. but the dialectics of openness/closedness seem to be much more sophisticated than they look in your lists.

how is the feeling/experience of “openness” created? in which different ways? can a site (like Facebook) feel open for one (like a college student) at the same time feel closed to the other (like myself)? etc.

]]> Comment on Open + Closed by Marcus http://blog.sethgoldstein.com/2007/11/05/open-closed/#comment-315 Marcus Mon, 05 Nov 2007 22:28:31 +0000 http://blog.sethgoldstein.com/2007/11/05/open-closed/#comment-315 Seth, you've obviously thought about this so intensely that it's a bit of a burden to have to write about it in less than manifesto / thesis detail. Cool idea, but this post isn't analytic enough to support the claims that the current open / closed dichotomy is a false one. Give us more! Seth, you’ve obviously thought about this so intensely that it’s a bit of a burden to have to write about it in less than manifesto / thesis detail.

Cool idea, but this post isn’t analytic enough to support the claims that the current open / closed dichotomy is a false one. Give us more!

]]> Comment on Answering the Facebook Platform Bears- #1: “Facebook apps are not real media” by Scott Rafer http://blog.sethgoldstein.com/2007/10/18/answering-the-facebook-platform-bears-1-facebook-apps-are-not-real-media/#comment-304 Scott Rafer Sun, 21 Oct 2007 17:25:59 +0000 http://blog.sethgoldstein.com/2007/10/18/answering-the-facebook-platform-bears-1-facebook-apps-are-not-real-media/#comment-304 I'm obviously a believer, but not in the same way. The user acquisition onto apps clearly has value but may not on Facebook itself. As with so many mechanisms in the direct marketing world, Facebook and similar platforms may be the lead generation mechanism but not the place to also make money on those leads. I’m obviously a believer, but not in the same way.

The user acquisition onto apps clearly has value but may not on Facebook itself. As with so many mechanisms in the direct marketing world, Facebook and similar platforms may be the lead generation mechanism but not the place to also make money on those leads.

]]> Comment on web 3.0 = facebook 2.0? by Language as Concealment « American Stranger http://blog.sethgoldstein.com/2007/07/17/web-30-facebook-20/#comment-297 Language as Concealment « American Stranger Thu, 11 Oct 2007 23:22:26 +0000 http://blog.sethgoldstein.com/2007/07/17/web-30-facebook-20/#comment-297 [...] Blogspot, blah blah blah — are tremendously profitable and rising in power (even against Google!). A cursory glance at these sites — and I assure you I have taken much more than a glance [...] […] Blogspot, blah blah blah — are tremendously profitable and rising in power (even against Google!). A cursory glance at these sites — and I assure you I have taken much more than a glance […]

]]> Comment on Closed is the New Open by Seth Goldstein » Blog Archive » Social Ads http://blog.sethgoldstein.com/2007/07/31/closed-is-the-new-open/#comment-296 Seth Goldstein » Blog Archive » Social Ads Thu, 11 Oct 2007 09:08:59 +0000 http://blog.sethgoldstein.com/2007/07/31/closed-is-the-new-open/#comment-296 [...] two months following the opening of Facebook’s social media platform, I wrote that “Closed is the New Open.” I anticipated that Facebook would enable tremendous innovation by virtue of how few options [...] […] two months following the opening of Facebook’s social media platform, I wrote that “Closed is the New Open.” I anticipated that Facebook would enable tremendous innovation by virtue of how few options […]

]]> Comment on Closed is the New Open by John Musser of ProgrammableWeb.com « Bungee Connect Developer Network Blog http://blog.sethgoldstein.com/2007/07/31/closed-is-the-new-open/#comment-272 John Musser of ProgrammableWeb.com « Bungee Connect Developer Network Blog Fri, 31 Aug 2007 20:49:28 +0000 http://blog.sethgoldstein.com/2007/07/31/closed-is-the-new-open/#comment-272 [...] “Closed is the New Open” by Seth Goldstein [...] […] “Closed is the New Open” by Seth Goldstein […]

]]> Comment on Closed is the New Open by SXSW 2008 Panel Voting at The Gong Show by Andrew Parker http://blog.sethgoldstein.com/2007/07/31/closed-is-the-new-open/#comment-269 SXSW 2008 Panel Voting at The Gong Show by Andrew Parker Sat, 25 Aug 2007 01:42:38 +0000 http://blog.sethgoldstein.com/2007/07/31/closed-is-the-new-open/#comment-269 [...] openness advocate, took a sharp U-Turn when the Facebook platform was released and wrote that closed is the new open. As Seth mentions in his post, Seth and Fred discussed this subject at USV and Fred nearly threw [...] […] openness advocate, took a sharp U-Turn when the Facebook platform was released and wrote that closed is the new open. As Seth mentions in his post, Seth and Fred discussed this subject at USV and Fred nearly threw […]

]]> Comment on Closed is the New Open by Jughead http://blog.sethgoldstein.com/2007/07/31/closed-is-the-new-open/#comment-262 Jughead Wed, 15 Aug 2007 12:55:12 +0000 http://blog.sethgoldstein.com/2007/07/31/closed-is-the-new-open/#comment-262 The idea of progression is right on the money. Facebook has successfully captured the younger female demographic looking for a way to communicate on a more intimate level and in a less chaotic (MySpace) and freewheeling environment. The "closedness" privacy that opt-in provides creates the comfortable "open" vibe that is essential to retain this coveted demographic. However, the splintering of social networks has just begun. Soon there will be social networks targeting hobbies, nationalities, religions, political/sports/music/entertainment affiliations, etc. The widgets will be built and customised by deep pocketed advertisers for each particular audience. For example, a social network for golfers will have popular video game widgets similar to Birdie King rather than food fight. Groups will focus on technical issues regarding club design, best courses, sharing ideas and tips, funny golf stories, content about legendary players, etc. The advertising money directed at each type of specialized network will help to facilitate this progression into more targeted niches and nurture their growth through the lure of targeted ad budgets. Friendster, MySpace, Hi5 and Facebook are nothing without their inhabitants. No one really cares about the platform. It's all about the communities that they are affiliated with and to what extent the community caters to their immediate interests. The ad money will follow. The idea of progression is right on the money. Facebook has successfully captured the younger female demographic looking for a way to communicate on a more intimate level and in a less chaotic (MySpace) and freewheeling environment. The “closedness” privacy that opt-in provides creates the comfortable “open” vibe that is essential to retain this coveted demographic.

However, the splintering of social networks has just begun. Soon there will be social networks targeting hobbies, nationalities, religions, political/sports/music/entertainment affiliations, etc.

The widgets will be built and customised by deep pocketed advertisers for each particular audience. For example, a social network for golfers will have popular video game widgets similar to Birdie King rather than food fight. Groups will focus on technical issues regarding club design, best courses, sharing ideas and tips, funny golf stories, content about legendary players, etc. The advertising money directed at each type of specialized network will help to facilitate this progression into more targeted niches and nurture their growth through the lure of targeted ad budgets.

Friendster, MySpace, Hi5 and Facebook are nothing without their inhabitants. No one really cares about the platform. It’s all about the communities that they are affiliated with and to what extent the community caters to their immediate interests. The ad money will follow.

]]> Comment on Closed is the New Open by Pigsaw Blog » Blog Archive » A revolutionary Facebook application: e-mail http://blog.sethgoldstein.com/2007/07/31/closed-is-the-new-open/#comment-261 Pigsaw Blog » Blog Archive » A revolutionary Facebook application: e-mail Wed, 08 Aug 2007 07:43:32 +0000 http://blog.sethgoldstein.com/2007/07/31/closed-is-the-new-open/#comment-261 [...] Link 1. Seth Goldstein says a little of what I said yesterday, but at a higher level, and drawing a more significant conclusion: “Closed is the new open”. [...] […] Link 1. Seth Goldstein says a little of what I said yesterday, but at a higher level, and drawing a more significant conclusion: “Closed is the new open”. […]

]]> Comment on Closed is the New Open by dave mcclure http://blog.sethgoldstein.com/2007/07/31/closed-is-the-new-open/#comment-260 dave mcclure Mon, 06 Aug 2007 05:32:46 +0000 http://blog.sethgoldstein.com/2007/07/31/closed-is-the-new-open/#comment-260 @seth: nice piece. i'd agree -- a gated community with a full banquet & lots to drink is preferable to a wide open barren desert. open is as open does. @seth: nice piece. i’d agree — a gated community with a full banquet & lots to drink is preferable to a wide open barren desert. open is as open does.

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